Loyalty to the Truth, Part 2
An interview with Dr. Edward R. Fields.
American Dissident Voices
December 4, 2005
by Kevin Alfred Strom
WE WELCOME Dr. Edward R. Fields (pictured) to our program again
this week for part two of our interview. Dr. Fields is the
editor-in-chief of the longest-running and most popular pro-White
publication in the United States, The Truth at Last newspaper.
When we last spoke, Dr. Fields and I were discussing the limiting
nature of the "left wing" and "right wing" political labels -- and the
fact that we ought to transcend those labels.
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KAS: I don't see the Jews as being really right-wing or
left-wing. I see them as using whatever ideology advances their power
at the moment. It may be that for the last hundred years that it's been
mostly left wing, but I'm seeing a shift now and -- it's phony, of
course -- but they're using right-wing politics to advance their
agenda. "Whatever's good for the Jews" is their motto, and often what's
good for the Jews -- or what they perceive as being good for the Jews
-- is very, very bad for White people.
"Is it good for the Jews?" I was amazed to see that the latest issue of
Pat Buchanan's magazine has an article about this phenomenon. On the
questions that arise the Jews always ask themselves, "Is this good for
the Jews?" On every issue they ask themselves that question. Just as they supported Communism in the past, today they support capitalism. They are the capitalists today, and for people who think big business is
conservative or right-wing, let me tell you, it's not. It's left-wing.
They're opposed to individual freedoms, including our First Amendment
rights. They're pushing racial integration and affirmative action in
their businesses and corporations. Big business supports these things.
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KAS: Yes, indeed. You know, we ought to be asking ourselves in every decision we make in our society, "Is it good for White Americans?" We can learn a little bit from the Jews' ethnocentrism.
FIELDS: Exactly. Always remember that every new "civil
rights" bill that's passed by Congress in some way and in some measure
dilutes the rights of White people. It takes away from us, no matter
what the bill is about.
KAS: Isn't there a provision in the civil rights legislation
currently in force that says that whatever changes are made in
electoral districting, they must always enhance the voting power of non-Whites?
FIELDS: Yes. It must give them more representation.
Even though in Georgia and North Carolina non-Whites now comprise 40%
of the population, they want to extend the Act now for 25 more years.
People who study demographics say that within 10 to 15 years,
non-Whites are going to be the majority.
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KAS: Yet we can never have a redistricting bill that
enhances the power of White voters -- never. We can't have that; it's
illegal. And yet the people aren't being told this, except perhaps in
the pages of The Truth at Last and on nationalvanguard.org. No one knows about it!
FIELDS: That's right, they're in the dark. I never see it
mentioned in the major media. People think a "civil rights" bill means
the government is protecting their right to go to the polls and cast a
ballot. That has absolutely nothing to do with it. It's a matter of
redistricting. Here in Georgia our legislature, which is
Republican-dominated, passed a bill requiring some kind of photo ID
before you can go to the polls and vote. Bush's Civil Rights Commission
approved it. When the law was challenged, however, federal courts said
the Civil Rights Commission was wrong. The decision is being appealed,
but the legislation to require photo ID before you can vote will
probably be declared unconstitutional under the Voting Rights Act.
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KAS: On what grounds? The grounds that it will prevent Mexicans from voting?
FIELDS: That's what they say. It will prevent minorities from voting, because they claim that a lot of them don't have any photo ID.
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KAS: What you said earlier about big business not being
really conservative or right-wing segues into what I wanted to ask you
next. Because our positions are racial positions, a lot of people put
us in a box labeled "right-wing." Now my personal opinion is that we
really shouldn't embrace that label because I think it's too limiting.
I think what we really are is people who see the world from a whole new
perspective that's neither left nor right; it's a biological
perspective. Some of the worst enemies of the White race are big
business, which a lot of people will put in the "right-wing" category,
even if they're not really on the right. The neo-cons who control Bush
are perceived as being on the right and they're certainly
Jewish-controlled and anti-White. People look at the multiracialist
televangelists who promote racial mixing as being "right-wing," too, so
I'm thinking maybe we should abandon this "right-wing" label and
rethink the whole thing.
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FIELDS: I think your'e right. We've always thought that
"left-wing" means socialist and communist and "right-wing" means
conservative, Christian, et cetera. When you come right down to it,
though, we're for the preservation of the White race, and that should
come before any identification with the "left wing" or the "right
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And as for the "left wing," this free prescription drug program
that the Left is now pushing gives multimillions to pharmaceutical
companies. For every $1,000 of prescription drug benefits for an
individual, the insurance companies will get $600 from the federal
government. In other words, the $1,000 of so-called free drugs that the
government is paying for is actually costing the taxpayers $1,600.
KAS: I didn't know that. You've spoken in your articles recently about national health insurance. What's your position on that?
FIELDS: I'm one hundred percent in favor of it. I have
friends in Canada and England who are amazed at the system we have in
America, where the Blacks and the Mexicans have Medicaid -- one of the
best insurance programs in the world -- and where people who work for
the federal government or big business have wonderful health insurance
plans, but the middle class are struggling, as are many smaller
businesses that are trying to pay for insurance. Every single year the
cost goes up by double-digit percentages, and businesses that can't
afford to insure their employees drop them from health insurance
KAS: You were telling me that American automakers are at a
disadvantage because they have to pay for health insurance for their
FIELDS: It costs them about an extra $1,400 for every car that they sell to pay for their employees' and retirees' health insurance.
KAS: So you've taken a position there that some would say is a more left-leaning position. You're already out of the box, Ed.
FIELDS: Yes, that's exactly right. I am positively in favor
of national health insurance for everybody. And I'm also for a system
like they have in England, where those who can afford it can have a
private plan. If you've got the money you can buy health insurance from
a private company and go to a private hospital, which the rich people
in England do. But everybody in England is covered, and I've
asked people over there, "If you took a vote in the most conservative
district of England about going back to private-pay health care instead
of national health care, would it pass?" They told me it would fail
utterly, that everybody over there is for national health insurance
because they're afraid that they personally, or their children, or some
other relative would be wiped out financially by astronomical medical
bills. I know people here in Atlanta who had to file for bankruptcy
because they couldn't pay their medical bills.
KAS: Well, I think it goes back to what we were saying
before, that whatever is good for the White race is good, and if
national health insurance is good for our White society, then we should
be for it, regardless of whether it's labeled "left" or "right." That's
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What's good for White people is what counts and, unfortunately, as
our society becomes more and more non-White and becomes less and less
productive, it will be harder and harder to have something like
national health insurance because the system will be bogged down by
people who don't work or can't work, but nevertheless require a lot of
medical care. In a White society, on the other hand, you have
productive people who take care of their health and the system can work
FIELDS: Yes, as in Sweden and other Scandinavian countries. They have the best health care systems in the world.
KAS: Now Ed, you broke the mould again in 2004. You did
something that surprised a lot of people when you stood up in front of
that crowd at the European American Conference in New Orleans and
endorsed Ralph Nader for President. Can you tell us what made you
decide to do that?
FIELDS: David Duke some years ago flew from New York to Los
Angeles and Ralph Nader was on the plane, so they sat together. Duke
says that they had a long talk as they flew across the continent, and
he was amazed at how many things Ralph Nader stood for that he agreed
with. Ralph Nader is opposed to immigration. He thinks the border
should be totally sealed and all illegal immigration should cease. He's
opposed to the war and thinks our troops should be immediately
withdrawn. More importantly with regard to many of these subjects, he
is very strongly opposed to monopolies, such as Wal-Mart, and their
wiping out of small businesspeople all across America. Pat Buchanan's
magazine had an excellent interview with Nader as well. I really saw
Ralph Nader as a national figure who stood for many of the things that
we believe in.
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KAS: Well, he's a liberal on the race issue, but on many
other issues there's a lot of congruence between his positions and
ours. Isn't he also very well aware of the Zionist power over the Bush
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FIELDS: Yes. He made the famous statement that Ariel Sharon
was the puppeteer and the U.S. Congress were his puppets. And actually,
whenever the Jews write articles about him in their publications, they
always remind their readers that he's half Lebanese. Being half
Lebanese is reason enough alone for the Jews to be suspicious of Ralph
Nader. It's unfortunate that he was defeated rather soundly, and it's
unfortunate that so many of our people supported George Bush in order
to stop Kerry, but certainly the masses of our people were misled in
this last election.
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KAS: As usual.
FIELDS: Yes, that's right. Voting for the lesser of two
evils has really been horrible for us. We're taken for granted by the
Republican Party, so they're really just going after the so-called
moderates, and even the leftists, while Bush claims that he can even
get the Mexicans to vote Republican. We have been squeezed into the
Republican Party against our will, you might say.
KAS: They spit in our faces and expect our votes.
KAS: You've never converted The Truth at Last into a
slick, expensive magazine. Since 1960 it's always been a tabloid
newspaper with mass street distribution. Can you explain the philosophy
behind that decision?
FIELDS: Mainly we've done this because a tabloid newspaper
is very cheap to print and because the page size is advantageous. With
no advertising, we can get a lot of news in the paper. We have
saturated entire cities with special editions and have influenced the
outcome of at least two elections here in Georgia by saturating
congressional districts. If we had a magazine or something like that,
people couldn't distribute that by the thousands, door-to-door. But a
newspaper can be rolled up and tossed across people's driveways, which
we do all the time. Many people read the paper, buy some of our books,
subscribe, or show it to other people. It's just a better way to reach
new people on a large scale than more expensive media are.
KAS: So a lot of your readers are not just readers; they're actually activists who buy copies by the thousands and distribute them.
FIELDS: I would say that today we sold about seven hundred copies of the paper, which is not bad for one day.
KAS: Very good. Ed, you and I have recently been collaborating together on The Truth at Last.
For the latest issue, Number 453, I was the Managing Editor, using new
computer software to lay it out. It has a new look, but the same
principles -- and people really ought to get a copy. The latest issue
also highlights some of the National Vanguard activism that's been
going on around the country on behalf of White people. How can people
get a copy so they can see what The Truth at Last is all about?
FIELDS: If anyone would like a sample copy of the paper,
they should send one dollar to Truth at Last, P. O. Box 1211, Marietta,
Georgia 30061. Just send one dollar in, and we'll send you a copy of
the paper by first-class mail. There's a subscription form included,
and if you want to subscribe, the rates are very low -- just $18 for a
year's subscription and $10 for six months. If you'd like to have extra
copies of the current issue -- which has three pages of articles on
National Vanguard activities -- just send $5 for 15 copies. All orders
are filled within 24 hours of receipt.
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KAS: We've recently seen a tremendous change in Americans'
attitudes, I think, as a result of Hurricane Katrina. I think they've
seen a side of Black America, of multiracialist America, that they
hadn't seen before. What, for you, are the lessons of Hurricane
FIELDS: I think it was a great shock to many people to see
what happens when you have a total breakdown in law and order, when the
police run away and other police join the rioters and looters. Who's
ever heard of that happening before? Burning down buildings -- shooting
at people who are trying to rescue stranded, sick, and elderly people?
I talked to someone from Hamburg, Germany after this happened. They
have levees in Hamburg, and from time to time they have storms and the
levees come down. They have flooding and have to rescue people by boat.
Not one police officer there has ever been called out during a flood to
put down a riot. Not a single case of looting has ever occurred in
Hamburg during flooding.
In New Orleans there was massive looting -- looting of every
business that the people could get their hands on. What we saw here was
that in a situation where there's no law and order Blacks become
uncivilized and revert to their African habit of stealing everything
they can get their hands on.
A well-known businessman in Atlanta who's now deceased, Marvin
Dillard, who owned the M & M (Magic Market) stores, once told me
that anytime you hire a Black person and put him in charge of money,
you have hired a thief. He would give Blacks lie detector tests before
he'd hire them. After they had filled out their applications, he'd say,
"Come back next Thursday for your lie detector test." They would never
come back. As a result, the M & M convenience stores were
practically all White.
In New Orleans the veneer of civilization was stripped away and the
Black community showed its true face and, actually, its hatred of White
people. What we see in France today -- the rioting which has gone on
for weeks, with over ten thousand cars burned along many, many
buildings that the media don't even talk about -- this is something
that could possibly happen in this country.
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KAS: Indeed we could, and of course, when we hear about
riots in France isn't it interesting that it isn't Frenchmen and
Frenchwomen -- it's not White people -- who are rioting over there,
it's the Arabs and the Blacks that they've imported. That's not just a
coincidence. People need to realize that it's a racial matter.
FIELDS: It is a racial matter, and it has spread to parts of
Germany and to a couple of cities in Belgium. And although it's been
played down, there was a night of rioting with automobiles being burned
in a suburb outside of London on October the 15th. The media in our
country have really played down the riots -- and they blame the Whites
for them. They say, "The Whites have discriminated, they haven't given
jobs and education to the Africans and that's why they're rioting."
That's just a liberal cop-out when Whites blame themselves for the
riots instead of the rioters.
KAS: It's almost like we're training them to riot -- because
if you give in and give them more when they riot, then they know how to
get more next time.
FIELDS: That's right. They think, "Why not riot? We'll get
more." The authorities are saying the most they can do is put these
so-called "young people" or "teenagers" in jail for three months. Three
months? They should be in there for three years!
KAS: Well, forget the jail, Ed; they should go back to Africa.
FIELDS: Yes, they should be deported back to Africa. Le Pen
did come out in favor of deporting all of the lawbreakers back to
Africa, and I think some other politicians did, too. But actually,
these people over there who hate the European culture, who are envious
of the White people and their economic standing, are never going to
meld with the French population. You can't make Frenchmen out of
Africans, and the French need to deport them -- one and all -- back to
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KAS: I agree one hundred percent. What we White people need in every White country, including America, is White living space. That's what
our forefathers fought for, that's what they believed in, and that
what's what we need in order to live.
KAS: Well, Ed, you've been fighting this fight for White people for almost fifty years with The Truth at Last and even longer before that, and yet you have the energy and gusto, the
ability to get things done, and if I may say so, the appearance of a
man much younger than your years. What is your secret?
FIELDS: Well, my father lived to be 101 -- he passed away
two years ago -- and my mother lived to be 86. They say that if you
take the difference between the age of your mother, however long she
lived, and add it to the age of your father, then divide that figure in
half, you have a chance of living to the average of their two ages.
That means that I could live to be 93. I will continue this fight to
the very last day I live and to last breath that I take.
KAS: Ed, I want to thank you for all your efforts, all the work you've put into The Truth at Last,
and all your other consciousness-raising activities for these many
decades. I also want to thank you for your faith in me and in the
leadership and the membership of National Vanguard as we cooperate in
reaching out to White men and women all over this country and the
world. I want to thank you for your steadfast loyalty to the truth. And
I want to thank you for being a guest on American Dissident Voices.
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