Stop White Genocide, continued
ILLUSTRATION -- Black vandals in Soweto, South Africa, destroy in
a moment what they could never create in a thousand years.
An interview with Deirdre Fields, part 2
American Dissident Voices broadcast
June 19, 2005
by Kevin Alfred Strom
IMAGINE YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD surrounded by barbed wire and
sophisticated alarm systems. Outside the fences are endless miles of
urine- and blood-soaked shanty towns where millions of primitive
tribesmen and half-castes hate you with a desperation and passion that
is encouraged by the government in power. Imagine that the government
itself was elected by those desperate masses using a slogan which
openly called for the death of your family and your people. Imagine a
place where murder is so commonplace it is hardly noticed. Imagine
festering diseases and spreading epidemics so horrible that they seem
like ancient tales of the plague come to life. Imagine a health care
system breaking down under the strain -- and by the brain drain of
Whites who refuse to live under such a system. Imagine a nation where
Whites are so outnumbered and so hated that the police refuse to help
you and often side with the criminals and killers who are attacking
Well, you don't have to imagine. That is what life is turning into for
the White men, women, and children of South Africa. This is a story of
suffering, injustice, and genocide that the controlled media have kept
from you. Their silence on South Africa proves their agenda, their
complicity, and their lies.
To counter the lies and bring us the truth, we are pleased to
welcome once again to our microphones Mrs. Deirdre Fields, a South
African expatriate who has made it her mission to speak out for her
[ http://nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=5280 ]
When we concluded part one of her interview, Mrs. Fields was about
to explain how South African Whites had lost control of their
government and plunged into the nightmare they are experiencing today.
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Kevin Alfred Strom:
When you gave your speech in New
Orleans, you said that South Africa was lost through a 'con game.' How
was this 'con game' perpetrated on the White people of South Africa?
To begin with, Dr. Verwoerd [the
assassinated South African leader who was the leading architect of the
Apartheid policy of separate development of the races in that country]
was the last decent statesman we had. And he could not be bought -- so
he was assassinated. There's a long story to that, but it was brought
about by an international cabal. In fact, I think it was Time
magazine which, about a week before he was killed, carried a picture of
him which showed the shadow of a knife pointing right at his neck.
And he was assassinated by a card-carrying Communist,
Dimitri Tsafendas. After that, John Vorster was put in power. He had
been the minister for security, and he was responsible for Tsafendas
even being in the country. America had notified South Africa that this
guy was a Communist, and he'd been expelled. And Vorster did nothing.
The evidence all shows that John Vorster was taken up on the mountain
and offered the presidency if he would just "do a few things." So the
moment he took power he started to dismantle Apartheid. It was about
two years after he'd taken power that it became totally evident that he
was dismantling it.
And that's what it was. It started out with integrated sports, and
then 'progressed' -- through different presidents, in fact, because
there always was a sticking point. They would go so far and then no
further, and to their amazement they would be thrown out. So you had
John Vorster, then you had P.W. Botha, and finally de Klerk.
Botha took us up to the release of Mandela, and there he refused.
He said, well, this is too much. But de Klerk took us all the way, and
finally handed over the country. In the meantime, remember this was a
nationalist party [the National Party], which came into full power
under Dr. Verwoerd.
: Are you saying that this party was corrupted, and the
successive presidents who were members of this party were actually
working with the Oppenheimer and other interests to dismantle White
rule all along?
Absolutely. They were traitors. They kept on making the
right noises, the same as Ian Smith did in Rhodesia, then they would do
something quite different. They ended up handing over the country.
We had never been defeated in battle; never. We came to the negotiating table, and the ANC had nothing to put on the table. We put our whole country on the table.
Your home state of California is right on the edge of
being a White-minority state. So this question is particularly
applicable to you in your situation. What do you have to say to White
Americans? What kind of lessons can they learn from what happened in
I think the most obvious thing is: Nobody's interested
in 'fairness.' They don't care about 'equality' or 'equal rights' or
'equal' people. These concepts are merely a ploy to disenfranchise
Whites. That's number one.
Number two is that when Whites are a minority, they do not get
minority "status." In South Africa, they have 'Affirmative Action' --
and it's applied against
the Whites, who are the minority. Consider three million Whites against 47 million non-Whites. That
is how 'Affirmative Action' works in South Africa.
Even though Whites are only six per cent. of the population, they're still discriminated against
in so-called 'Affirmative Action'...
Exactly. So this so-called equality is only a ploy being
used to disenfranchise the Whites. Many Whites from California are
thinking that they are almost a minority -- and they already are in the
schools around here. They have all this bussing and so forth, and the
Whites are the minority in most of the public schools here in southern
California. In fact, many of the schools are called "PHBO," which
stands for "predominantly Hispanic, Black, and other." It's the "other"
that the Whites are. We get no special treatment at all. Whites will
not achieve minority "status." It will not be given to us. We will not
get any special treatment.
Well, we'll be an actual
minority... but you mean we will not get the preferred status that non-White minorities have gotten in this country.
Since the ANC takeover there, what has happened with regard to health care in South Africa?
It's gone down the tubes. It's terrible. The hospitals
are overcrowded. White people can hardly get any treatment. Everything
is falling into chaos; it is becoming a Third World country.
For instance, there is a terrific AIDS problem. Mbeki had something
to do with that. Mbeki, who is now the leader of South Africa, was a
Communist by the way, a prominent member of the Executive of the South
African Communist Party. Nobody says a word about that, which is
another indicator of the unity of purpose between international
capitalism and Communism. There is no difference -- it's just another
one of the tools of the New World Order.
Mbeki had his own little idea that HIV was not the cause of AIDS.
So he wouldn't give people the antiviral drugs. AIDS is burgeoning in
South Africa. For instance, I have heard that the South Africa Defence
Forces have a 70 per cent HIV-positive rate...
That is tremendously high. The AIDS deaths in
Johannesburg constitute 35 per cent of all deaths, and 40 per cent
around the Durban/Natal area. Thus an average of thirty-some per cent
of the deaths are AIDS-related.
And probably more, because they're not all identifiable.
Tuberculosis is one of the big killers, but then that's exacerbated by
AIDS. There is a huge
amount of AIDS orphans. A huge amount.
The orphanages are overflowing with skeletal babies who have been
abandoned by their AIDS-infected parents. In downtown Johannesburg
there are places where they have little flaps where you can drop off a
baby, ring a bell, and leave. Because they have such a problem. They
don't know what to do with all these AIDS orphans, many were found in
dumpsters etc. This is overwhelmingly a Black problem. Unless Whites
have interracial sex, get infected blood transfusions, or are
homosexual, they are unaffected by AIDS.
And there are squatters from all over the place. Blacks are coming to South Africa from as far afield as Nigeria.
What impact has the ANC takeover had on the economy and
on jobs? I'm particularly thinking about the economic prospects for
The economic prospects for Whites are really bad these
days. Many school-leavers or university-leavers don't have a place to
go. Some are simply inventing their own jobs. They are going into
business for themselves and seem to be prospering, but many are leaving
the country. I understand that many of the big companies in Europe are
recruiting at our universities.
But many Whites aren't doing well. For the first time since the
1930s there are White people who are homeless, desperate for work. It
was recently admitted in the papers that over one million jobs have
been lost in South Africa since 1994, but mostly to the Whites who
constitute a mere 6% of the population. There is a large percentage of
Whites living below the bread line.
Since 1994, what has happened to children's education in South Africa? Are Whites still allowed to have their own schools?
No. They have been destroying all those schools. We had
a lot of Afrikaans-language schools, universities and so forth. They
would demand that the Blacks be allowed to come in. Once there, they
would say that they want to have instruction in English because they
can't understand Afrikaans. So finally the educational institution
would try to provide bilingual instruction. And that, of course, was
very difficult to sustain. Finally many of these universities would
become English-speaking only. There's that, plus the schools are all
being intergrated... there are certain religious schools where they've
been able to keep Afrikaans media and so forth, but it's not going to
last. There's a communist Indian Minister of Education, and he is
Hell-bent on eliminating any Afrikaans schools.
And, when you talk about genocide, remember that something else is
going on, too: They are trying to destroy the whole history of the
Afrikaners. All the Afrikaans names have been changed in the South
Africa. The latest move is to change the name of Pretoria, the capital
to Tshwane, which has Afrikaners most upset.
It's much the same way in the United States. Schools
are having their names changed because Washington was a slave owner,
Right. So everything has a new name, a Black name. They
are pretty much trying to eradicate all evidence that the Afrikaner
ever was on the planet or on the continent. The school books, the
history books, have been rewritten -- and they have a whole new
"history" that we can't recognize. All written from an anti-White
What is the status of pro-White organizations in South
Africa? Are there any, and are any of them prospering and doing useful
The HNP [Re-established National Party] was doing very
well. They have outlived the National Party which, given its betrayal
of the Afrikaner to the ANC, has appropriately joined
recently; and the Conservative Party which, having fulfilled its
function of providing a spurious opposition, and drawing the right wing
backlash into a dead end, fizzled out very shortly after the handover
to the ANC. The Freedom Front started by the traitor Gen. Constand
Viljoen limps on in parliament with one or two MPs, but the HNP was
hale and hearty having been largely recognized as being true to the
will and interests of the Afrikaner and correct on all issues on which
the NP, CP, Volksfront and FF differed with them. Unfortunately, a mole
in the form of Dan Roodt (someone who was always liberal but claimed to
have seen merit in the position of the HNP in the light of current
events, though still not actually embracing it) is presently disrupting
the HNP. Hopefully, they will weather this storm.
There are many other smaller groups that have sprung up that are
preserving the culture and the language of the Afrikaner. And that's
about as much as we can do at this stage.
we have highlighted a small White separatist community, Orania... Can you tell us what you think of that group?
Yes, Orania. They've sort of become an icon. They
settled an area around an old town that was originally built to house
the workers while they built a dam. When all the workers left, the town
was just abandoned. So they've taken that over and they're doing very
well. But there are still not that many people there. And the ANC is
intrinsically opposed to any kinds of homelands for Whites. Orania they
may leave alone because it is an icon -- for the moment, anyway.
But that is exactly what White people need in South Africa. They need White living space -- Whites-only living space.
Yes. You need that. Look, we showed that homelands work
in South Africa -- with the Black homelands like Bophuthatswana,
Ciskei, KwaZulu and so forth. They worked, even though that whole
policy was never properly implemented.
I would say that Dr. Verwoerd had a solution which was never
properly implemented. With his death -- although we still had the
homelands and they set up border industries and gave huge concessions
to companies which set up around these homelands, and we were pumping
money into them -- the new leaders started to surrender our rights in
the mainland. And so the Blacks got more and more rights in the White
mainland, while still having their own homelands, their own president,
their own self-rule, their own same-language education (mother tongue
instruction), and so forth. It was a dual thing.
Some people say the homelands failed. They didn't. They just were
not properly implemented. While they were under their own home rule,
they did very well. But we had problems in the mainland where everybody
was mixed up together. There was more crime in that situation than
there ever was in the homelands -- and that's just one thing. Their
culture was conserved -- what more do you want?
So under White rule, under the "evil" system of
Apartheid, the Blacks were given their own independent, economically
self-sufficient homelands and a lot of assistance in setting them up.
However, White people in the new South Africa are not permitted to do
that. And even the small community of Orania -- a thousand people --
may not last forever.
No, unless something changes. I think the battle will be for the whole country, not for bits and pieces.
You'd think that considering the situation in South
Africa -- with the horrific conditions, the ongoing murders, genocide,
torture, and rape of White people, the collapse of organized society --
that if anything
could wake White people up and cause them to
think in racial terms, that surely the situation in South Africa would
do so. Are Whites in South Africa racially conscious and do many of
them see the need to do something for themselves as White people
Oh, absolutely. And the Afrikaners have always been a
very resourceful nation. We have our militias still. Though now they're
clamping down with "gun control" and people living in the cities are
having a lot of problems. They won't give them permits. You have to
have your gun permit with you at all times; if you're caught without it
you can go to jail for ten years. Of course the terrorists all have
their AK-47s -- they carry those around and nobody does anything about
Afrikaners have been extremely resourceful in creating all kinds of
alarm systems to make their homes more secure. If you drive around
White suburbs, it looks like a compound -- they've got huge walls
around their property, and barbed wire on the top.
They're trying to conserve their nationhood and their culture -- and they're trying to ride this out.
Now among those Whites in South Africa who are trying
to do something to preserve themselves and their culture, how many
understand the Jewish role -- the Jewish supremacist role -- in their
I think, as usual, it's a minority. But there's a much
higher proportion there than probably many places, because you can see
it. This is the thing; if you understand your history and you look at
the South African situation, the players are quite easily identifiable,
and you need to put them into perspective.
This is becoming increasingly interesting. We see that Oppenheimer
is an arm of the Rothschilds and a part of the New World Order. We in
South Africa have been such a cornerstone in this whole thing. Even way
back in the Anglo-Boer War, there was an understanding by many
Afrikaners that it was the Money Power that was behind all this. And
they wanted to blow up the gold mines right then. But people like Jan
Smuts, who were already in on the deal, wouldn't allow them to do that.
You've always got to deal with the traitor. And this is perhaps one of
the biggest lessons that South Africa can give us: There are traitors
in our midst. And don't believe that there's no such thing as a
conspiracy. There are always infiltrators who will try to destroy your
resistance to anything. This is a tactic used world-wide: In South
Africa, the National Party was hijacked, a bogus party to contain the
White backlash was created in the Conservative Party, then another
bogus umbrella resistance movement in the Volksfront completed the
deception, duping, and betrayal of the Afrikaners. In America the
Republican Party has been hijacked by the Jewish Neo-Cons, the Vatican
has been infiltrated too!
And another lesson is: You have to stand by your principles and not
compromise. You can't engage in this piecemeal surrender. You've got to
stand for something -- or you stand for nothing.
Another important message that is really, really evident is that when Whites are in the minority, they get killed.
They get exterminated. You know, there's so much talk about Whites
being 'haters.' And yet the Whites are the only people who go out to
other nations and help them -- pump money into their countries, and
build up an infrastructure, and give them medical aid, food and so
forth. You don't get the Chinese doing that for anybody. The Chinese
don't do it for the Blacks. There's no South American country that does
anything. The Japanese don't do anything for anybody. Nobody does
anything for anybody else -- it's only the Whites.
I was on a plane the other day, and the plane was delayed because
of a woman who just got off a plane from China. She was a White woman
bringing back two Chinese orphans. You don't see Chinese adopting
Whites. Or Japanese. Or Indians. Or anybody. It's only Whites who have
this surfeit of compassion that has spilled out from their own race and
into other races.
And we have also been so propagandized that many Whites have a
hatred of their own people -- and a love for a different race, which is
And in return for that, we are exterminated when we place ourselves in an untenable minority position.
That's right. You can never get it back. Other races do not tolerate alien groups in their midst. They do not tolerate them.
Where can American Dissident Voices
listeners get reliable news in English about South Africa?
What can White Americans do to help their kin in South Africa?
I would be really grateful if people would spread the
news of the genocide going on in South Africa. People should work up a
public outrage -- about the plight of White Afrikaners that is not
being addressed in the media or anywhere else. We should be on all the
aid organizations' and human rights organizations' lists. People should
be out there trying to change things. Why isn't America imposing
sanctions on South Africa until they give Whites proper rights? Until
they stop the lawlessness in South Africa? Until they stop the murders?
Until they stop dispossessing the Afrikaners of their land?
This should be an issue that is in the media day and
night, 24 hours a day. There's a real genocide of our own people, our
own kin, going on right now, and yet most of us don't even know about
it. It's an outrage.
Because our skins are White we don't matter? What about
us? This is what needs to be spread. What about us? Are White people
going to stand by and see their kith and kin genocided with nary a word
of protest until it's their turn
Deirdre, is there anything you'd like to add before we close the program?
Learn from South Africa, in your own situations. And
publicize our plight. Because if nobody sticks up for the Afrikaners,
then this genocide is going to continue. I personally have faith in the
Afrikaners. I think we will finally take our country back. But
meanwhile, White people need to stick together. And we need to realize
that we are a minority on this planet. Our gene pools are being
polluted. And if we don't watch out, we will very soon become extinct.
has been publishing pictures on
its front pages, showing the "new face of America." And throughout the
world, basically the White is going to become extinct. And the Whites
are supposed to be happy about this? They were crowing about this. This
is not funny. This is extermination. This is genocide. We have a right
to continue. Any life form on Earth normally has a will to live and to
perpetuate itself. And yet, of all peoples on this Earth, the Whites
have been encouraged to be pallbearers at their own funeral. And this
is very sad.
So we need to wake up and realize that there is an organized
anti-White racist movement around the world. And it is out to get us.
That awakening is one of the purposes of this program,
Deirdre. I want to thank you for all you're doing to bring to light
this horrible, tragic, cosmically unjust situation that exists in South
Africa. And I also want to thank you for working for White solidarity.
And lastly I'd like to thank you for being a guest and talking with us
on American Dissident Voices
Thank you very much, Kevin, and thanks for this
opportunity to make the case for the Afrikaners. And I sincerely hope
that your listeners will run with the ball.
By joining together to preserve and protect White America -- and by
keeping it White -- we'll have the ability to protect not only our own
future generations, but our White kin overseas like the Afrikaners.
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Until next week, this is Kevin Alfred Strom reminding you of the
words of Richard Berkeley Cotten: Freedom is not free; free men are not
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