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Love Your Race:
An Interview with David Pringle,
Part 2

American Dissident Voices broadcast
February 14, 2004
by Kevin Alfred Strom

 
On today's program we welcome again to our microphones the Membership Coordinator of the National Alliance, Mr. David Pringle.
 
On last week's program, Mr. Pringle discussed the Alliance's literature outreach efforts -- which this week culminate in our international 'Love Your Race' campaign, a Valentine's Day card to our people around the world. I expect I'll be seeing you -- and reading about your efforts -- on the streets of the Americas, Europe, Australasia, South Africa, and everywhere White people live this week, as you distribute our healthy and positive 'Love Your Race' flyer in your community and your language. Go to natvan.com and nationalvanguard.org and see how you can participate in this consciousness-raising effort in your community.
 
This week, Mr. Pringle tells us about the real-life flesh-and-blood community-building the National Alliance is doing in its Local Units today, and his vision for the Alliance's future.
 
KAS: Many of our listeners may not be aware of how the Alliance is organized; can you tell our listeners, are there local branches?
 
DP: Yes. As a matter of fact, right now we have 35 Local Units, and what we call a proto-Unit, which is basically an emerging Unit, and then we have even smaller groups of people in about 50 cities and small towns around the country. Then, of course, we have isolated members who just prefer to do their own thing.
 
KAS: So one doesn't have to be a member of a Local Unit -- but one can if one wants to.
 
DP: That's correct. The way we're organized begins with our National Office -- which would have the Chairman, Mr. Erich Gliebe, and his staff at the highest level, and then it goes down to regional levels. During my tenure as Membership Coordinator and under our Chairman's leadership, we've actually set up more regional leadership than we've ever had before. Those areas include the Texas region -- Louisiana, Arkansas, Oklahoma, and Texas -- and Texas is where we have more Units than in any other state; then we have the Western United States that we've divided off; then we've just created the Northeast region which will take in all the smaller states in the Northeast.
 
KAS: And you and I recently attended the Midwestern regional conference.
 
DP: Yes; and that's an area that's growing by leaps and bounds. In fact, that was one of the larger meetings I've been to in the past year, and it was extremely successful.
 
KAS: What do these Local Units -- that fall under the regional administration -- actually do?
 
DP: What they do is hold monthly meetings -- where they invite all the members in the local area -- for planning purposes. They plan for what they're going to be doing for the next month and, if need be, collect the funds to do that. Of course, we provide some educational speakers occasionally, but mostly what these meetings should be about are what you're going to be doing for the next month; a planning session. The different Units will do different things; some Units will focus -- especially if they're a new emerging Unit -- on mass literature distributions, because it's what they can afford. We have other Units, like the Tampa Unit, which in two weeks and one planning session I just happened to be there for, planned for a billboard, and created a letter campaign that went out to all the criminal defense attorneys in Florida -- which rattled quite a few cages.
 
KAS: That was a National Alliance recruiting letter to the criminal defense attorneys in Florida?
 
DP: Right; and actually from quite a few we had a positive response.
 
KAS: Excellent!
 
DP: That's in spite of all the negative media, including the New York Times, and the American Bar Association's E-report.
 
KAS: So, basically, if you join the Alliance and say you want join a Local Unit, if there is one in your area you can expect monthly meetings and brainstorming sessions where projects like these are mapped out.
 
DP: Right, and that's how we're building community in local areas. For instance, some of these areas put on European Cultural Festivals, or Eurofests; St. Louis put on a very successful Eurofest, as have the Sacramento Unit and other Units, where they'll get several hundred people out for the Eurofest, many of whom may not be racially conscious -- they might just like to experience and revel in their heritage -- and that could be the perfect place to slip them some Alliance literature and let them see that we're not the bogeymen the media paint us as being. Also in these Units there's a social factor. One person said to me not long ago -- after they had been talking about somebody who had gone out with some Alliance members and was an Alliance member herself -- that the Alliance "wasn't a dating service." And I said to that person "You're wrong. The Alliance is an everything service." We're trying to completely rebuild our own White community again. You might say we're building a parallel world to the one of rot and decay that we see around us all the time. To me, what these meetings do is 'charge my batteries'; they get me around people where I don't have to watch what I say, I don't have to worry, you know, about shocked looks when I say something about Israel, or Black IQs, or whatever. They take place in an atmosphere of camaraderie and brotherhood; we have just one class of people there and that's just White men and Women. If you're interested in that, we have quite a few active Units around the country, and I, personally, can put you in contact with any of the people who run them.
 
KAS: You've been traveling around this continent as part of your work with these Units, haven't you?
 
DP: I have. I have.
 
KAS: You're based in Alaska, is that right?
 
DP: For the time being, yes, I'm based in Anchorage, Alaska. When Chairman Gliebe asked me to be the Membership Coordinator, I explained to him that I wouldn't be able to relocate from Alaska for at least a year and a half. So I'm still up here.
 
KAS: So you're putting a lot of miles in the air, or in your car, or both?
 
DP: Well, yes. 50,000 miles in the air last year, and in my vehicle in one trip I put in 17,500 miles, traveling with my two young children -- my daughter is four and my son is five -- and my German Shepherd. We took quite a trek.
 
KAS: What do you do on these trips?
 
DP: I listen to a lot of tapes.
 
KAS: (laughter) I mean, what do you do when you get to your destination?
 
DP: Sorry, ha! The trip was planned around quite a few meetings; regional and local meetings and just meeting individual people where there weren't Units set up. What I was doing was trying to go through these places and get the message across that the Alliance is engaged in community building, and that we need constant, steady, daily, activity from our members. What I call it is "building the revolutionary work ethic." I try to get across to them that our biggest weakness is our belief in our own weakness. And that, considering the amount of members that we have, we have a voice that magnifies what we do by a factor of one hundred. Our people should concentrate on a constant, steady stream of activity -- and local infrastructure-building, too. That means getting the ability to print fliers and leaflets and literature locally -- material that's high quality too, not just regular mimeograph, and something that can work when the power's off as well. If the power hadn't come back on in the northeast United States, we would've had a golden opportunity to put out our message, and the local media would have been unable to respond to it. I try to get people to do that kind of local infrastructure-building.
 
I also try to make sure that all these people understand that no matter where they came from in life -- no matter whether they have a PhD in philosophy, political science, physics… it doesn't matter …or whether you're a mechanic, a home-maker… no matter what you do -- all those other people in that room have probably come to where they are by traveling almost exactly the same path as you have. What I have people do is go around the room and tell us their stories. Stories of how they came, not only to think racially, but how they came to the National Alliance; I've noticed this has an extremely unifying effect in every single situation.
 
KAS: Well, you've been saying, to me, and in print, in your missives that you've published, that what we need to do is have a flesh and blood community -- Internet outreach is fine; it's excellent; it's necessary; but there's a lot more that we need to do.
 
DP: Absolutely. In fact, I would even go as far as saying there was just a great debate, in the thing loosely known as 'the movement,' over the relative effectiveness of hard copy fliers and printed distribution vs. the Internet. While I'm all for Internet organizing, and fabulous news sites like nationalvanguard.org, I also believe that the face-to-face recruiting style -- and being able to get your message out on a one-on-one basis -- is extremely important. I can't even go into depths great enough to convey that to everybody that's listening today. You want to be able to not overwhelm people with too much at once, you want to be able to pick somebody that's a worthy recruiting project, and work on them for a period of time. Some people do that on the Internet… At one recent meeting I just asked people in the audience to raise their hands if they joined as a result of the Internet, and it was easily a quarter of them -- and quite of few of them through the aforementioned stormfront.org. But, no matter what Stormfront or anything else can do, we can't win what we want to win -- living space of our own, a nation of our own, run by healthy White men, with the beautiful White children and ladies like the one on our 'Love Your Race' flyer all around us 24 hours a day -- we can't do that just by Internet surfing. We have to have people that are willing to get together in small groups of people and work for a certain goal.
 
Many times everybody gets "rule-oriented." As an end goal, I'm "rule-oriented," too, but in my day-to-day work I try to simply be "goal-oriented." I say "I'm going to put out a thousand fliers," and I'll work until I'm done. That's what I mean by saying bringing things over to flesh and blood; you can translate that pursuit of a goal into real community. There are 24,000 people on stormfront.org, for example. I would like to be able to reach in there and yank them all through the screen... for instance, the other night there were 450 people on-line all at once; I'd like to be able to get all those people into a meeting, all at the same time, and let them see the difference that it makes when you're doing it face-to-face vs. strictly on-line.
 
KAS: We recently completed a National Alliance meeting hall that will hold some three to four hundred people.
 
DP: Yes, that's correct.
 
KAS: I know that our Chairman Erich Gliebe has been quite successful -- one of our most successful face-to-face recruiters -- up in Cleveland.
 
DP: The last count that I had for our Chairman was that he has recruited, personally, over two hundred members. That puts him far and away the biggest personal recruiter that we have.
 
KAS: David, what is your vision of the National Alliance's White community five years from now?
 
DP: My vision for five years in the future is that, first off, I would like to quadruple our numbers. I think it's very possible. We've seen fifty per cent. membership growth in a year, for example. That's one.
 
Number two is that I would like to see a Western States Regional Office, along with a Northeast Regional Office, sometime in the next five years.
 
I would like to see, on average, two good-sized public demonstrations a year; we're in the planning stages of one right now that will happen in mid-Summer.
 
I'd also like to see us with our own 24-hour Internet broadcast station -- a station where we're providing constant new programming 24 hours a day. I would like to see us do some informational campaigning with political candidates, where maybe the main goal isn't to win -- although that would be one of them -- but would be to mainstream our image and present our message to a wider audience.
 
I honestly believe, if things keep going in the way that they're going right now -- and I've never seen it like this in the years that I've been in the Alliance -- I believe that pretty much the sky's the limit in the next five years. I'd like to have a regional conference in Europe; I'd like to go to Australia and meet with our members there. I would think that all of those things are possible in the next five years.
 
KAS: What did you mean when you said "you've never seen it like this before"?
 
DP: Everywhere I go -- and you have to understand (and you do) this is despite some serious internal and external attacks that we suffered over the year 2003, despite all of those -- I've noticed that our members have a level of energy that I've never seen before, and every meeting that I go to I detect it even more. You get a crowd of smiling people, happy to be there, basking in the brotherhood, and they're all active people. They're all people who, whatever their age, get out on the street and hand out flyers -- no matter where it is. I've never seen it like that, where every single place that you go you see the same thing. You can see it in New Jersey or Sacramento… in St. Louis or Salt Lake City… you see it in Florida or Texas… it's the same everywhere -- just like a carbon copy. It's just that these people so energized and happy to be a part of the Alliance. It doesn't matter what anybody else on the outside of the organization says or does, our people just have their noses to the grindstone and they're knocking it out -- and they're making the headlines and they're recruiting the people.
 
KAS: Well, thank you, David Pringle, for your part for making that happen. Thank you for all your sacrifices, your hard work, and thank you for being a guest on American Dissident Voices.
 
DP: Thank you very much for having me; I'm honored. I can tell you one activity that I forgot to mention was, back in Albuquerque in the early 90s we had a great shortwave radio set-up and we'd have lemonade and coffee at my house every Sunday evening while we listened to your American Dissident Voices shows.
 
KAS: That was back in the WRNO days.
 
DP: That's right, it sure was. I loved those days and look
forward to plenty more.
 
KAS: Thanks to your efforts, and the efforts of the people who are going to those meetings, putting out that literature, making things happen at the local level, I think we are going where we need to go. Thank you David.
 
DP: Thank you.

 

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