War On the Border, Part 2
an interview with Jack Foote
American Dissident Voices broadcast
December 27, 2003
Kevin Alfred Strom
Today we continue our interview with Mr. Jack Foote of Ranch
Rescue, and his report of the ongoing invasion of the United
States by criminal aliens crossing our southern border -- and the
government's refusal to help Americans who are victims of this
invasion. Ranch Rescue is a group of volunteers who help private
landowners resist the invasion, send the invaders back where they
came from, and make citizen's arrests when the invaders refuse to
return, are armed, or are uniformed foreign troops on American
soil. Whatever you thought about the invasion of America before,
after listening to Jack Foote, you'll have a new and enhanced
awareness of the scale and severity of this war on everything
that America really is supposed to be.
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KAS: Mr. Foote, you describe your opponents as the 'Open Border
Mafia' -- what does that term mean?
FOOTE: The Open Border Mafia is not a single group -- it is a
collection of these quasi-socialists and pro-criminal-alien
advocates who run around calling us names and then disappear into
the dark, like snipers, without ever actually standing up and
accepting the challenge to publicly debate and let the facts and
logic speak for themselves.
KAS: What is their problem with you? How could anyone oppose
protection of private property from criminals?
FOOTE: Look at Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto. Tell me what
plank number one is.
KAS: Abolition of private property.
FOOTE: Abolition of all private property. I think that their true
intentions and their true agenda are very clear.
KAS: What percentage of the illegal immigrants are not Mexicans?
FOOTE: Well, that's an interesting question. Since the Border
Patrol no longer publishes -- and will not publish -- those
statistics. They absolutely refuse to reveal to the American
public what the percentage is. Since 9-11 they have declared that
information to fall under 'national security.'
A grandmother here in Cochise County [Arizona] took photographs
which she sent to me two days ago -- I still have them on my
computer -- of a group of 40 that she found as they were being
apprehended by the Border Patrol. She stopped her car; she got
out; she took pictures of the 40. All of them were non-Mexican.
Not one of them was a Mexican.
KAS: How could she tell?
FOOTE: She asked the Border Patrol agent on site if any of them
FOOTE: She was told no, none of them were. 40 in one group were
KAS: What were they?
FOOTE: Well, that's a real good question, since the Border Patrol
refused to say definitively what they were.
KAS: It seems to me that with 90 per cent. of the border-crossers
making it without being apprehended, that's an excellent way for
terrorists and all sorts of ne'er-do-wells to enter the United
FOOTE: Yes, keep in mind that 289,000 were caught in fiscal year
2000, which equates to about 2.8 million getting through
successfully -- because for every one that's caught, ten more get
through. That's not a number I made up; that's from the locals
who've lived through this nightmare during the last five years.
KAS: What other nationalities have been apprehended?
FOOTE: Yemenis, Iranians, Iraqis, Russians, Poles, Koreans, El
Salvadorans, Ghanaians... I mean -- you name it -- just about
every nationality in the world has been caught here at one time
or another. This is the number one crossing point in the United
States. Since there are no Border Patrol highway checkpoints out
of Douglas [Arizona] anymore, this is the easiest way to get
north once you get past the line. If you can get over the border,
then all you've got to do is find a ride north, because you won't
be stopped on the highway. Of course, the unintended side effect
of this policy has been a skyrocketing rate of carjackings and
car thefts. You steal a car, and the minute you get out of town
you've got a free shot north. Nobody's going to stop you, because
there are no Border Patrol checkpoints anymore.
KAS: When your patrols encounter someone trespassing on private
property -- crossing the border, crossing this person's property
-- what do you do?
FOOTE: Well, every mission is slightly different. For this
mission, here's what we do. If they are simply trespassing on the
property and they are in civilian clothes and they are not armed,
we will immediately order them to leave the property in the
direction that our landowner host has specified.
KAS: Are your men armed?
FOOTE: Absolutely, but that is at their choice. We do not require
them to be armed; we offer them the choice of being armed.
KAS: So your men tell them to leave?
FOOTE: If they refuse to leave -- or if they refuse to leave in
the direction that they're told by our landowner hosts or by us
acting as a limited agent of the landowner -- then simple
trespass becomes criminal trespass. That's a misdemeanor. We will
place them under citizen's arrest for refusing to leave in the
direction we tell them to, or for refusing to leave at all. We'll
also add any charges that we can find in terms of damaging the
property, theft, assault, you name it. We're out there looking
for criminal activity as the invited guests of the host. If we
encounter criminals who are armed, we're not going to let them
wander off the property still carrying weapons. We will disarm
them. And we will place them under citizen's arrest for more than
just simple trespass. If they're in uniform and they're armed,
then they're not civilian trespassers; they're foreign military,
and they are terrorists. Under the laws of the state, we cannot
use deadly force unless deadly force is first used against us or
threatened to be used against us. Now, in the case of civilian
criminals, that means they have to point a weapon at us or take a
shot at us before we can return fire. Everybody who's taken a
concealed handgun class understands this simple principle -- that
you cannot just simply and arbitrarily and overtly first use
deadly force. It has to be in response to the threat or the use
of deadly force by someone else. However, if they are armed and
in uniform and acting in a coordinated and directed manner, then
they constitute a foreign military unit. The essence of the
deadliness of foreign military is what we call Command, Control,
and Communications. C3 capability is the definition of the
deadliness of all modern military units. If they are armed and in
uniform and acting in a coordinated and directed manner, then
their very presence is a direct, immediate, credible, and deadly
KAS: What do you do in response to that threat?
FOOTE: We fire them up. No warning. No requests. If they're armed
and in uniform and obviously a foreign military unit, then we
will open fire.
KAS: How often has that happened?
FOOTE: Damn near happened earlier this week. We encountered
Mexican military on the property. Now our recon element was only
two men, so there weren't enough of them to open fire safely and
get out alive. They were outnumbered seven to one. But what we've
decided to do in that case in the future is not to hesitate. This
is the last time they're coming onto this property. They were in
OD green uniforms and they were smuggling drugs on this property.
The next time that a unit like that is encountered, we will open
fire -- even if we're outnumbered. We've had encounters like this
four times on this property since June.
KAS: Have casualties resulted?
FOOTE: No. Four times we've spotted them. We haven't opened fire
on them. We will open fire next time. We're done playing around
at this point.
KAS: How often have shots been fired between illegals and the
FOOTE: That's a weekly occurrence here. That happens just about
every week. There were two such shooting incidents last week,
three the week before, and the list goes on.
KAS: Here on American Dissident Voices we've covered the farm
invasions, rapes, and murders that are happening in South Africa.
Is anything comparable happening to Americans? Have any Americans
been raped, attacked, or killed on the border this year?
FOOTE: I invite your listeners to visit our Web site [
http://www.ranchrescue.com/ ] and go to the 'Stories' page and
read 'Silent War' and 'Silent War 2.' Those were written by Kerry
Morales. She is herself an immigrant into the United States. She
woke up in her bed with a criminal alien's hands around her
throat. She lives in Duvall County, Texas. And her husband is a
uniformed law enforcement officer -- and he cannot protect her.
She has been the victim of home invasions twice in less than a
year. The last time was the time she woke up with this rapist's
hands around her throat. She defended herself by pulling her
40-caliber handgun from underneath her pillow. She has to sleep
with that to stay safe. You can also find on the 'Media Coverage'
page the story of the elderly Parker Canyon Lake couple here in
Cochise County who offered food and water to a group of three
criminal aliens, who, after they finished their meal, attacked
the elderly couple, beat the man senseless, stuffed him into a
covered pickup truck bed, and forced the wife to drive the truck
to pick up more criminal aliens. You can also read the story of
the man who came home, in 2001 here in Cochise County, walked
into his living room, and found a group of 20 criminal aliens
waiting for him. One of them came at him with a hunting knife. He
defended himself with his handgun. All the criminal aliens
scattered out the back door and windows. He was uninjured, and
they did catch most of them. They caught the guy who was his
attacker -- he was pretty easy to identify, since he was the only
one of the group who had a 38-caliber hole in him. But did this
attacker get charged with anything? Did the brave County Attorney
here in Cochise County charge this criminal alien from Mexico
with assault with a deadly weapon, or attempted murder, or
breaking and entering, or home invasion? No. After 48 hours this
criminal alien was patched up in the hospital at local taxpayer
expense and he was sent back to Mexico. No charges were filed.
FOOTE: The rights of private landowners, the rights of American
citizens, take second place to the special consideration that is
given to criminal aliens from Mexico. If you are a Mexican
national, and you are caught in this nation illegally, even in
the commission of a crime, you face nothing more serious than
simple deportation. That is not establishing a deterrent to
crime. Because if you're a criminal alien from Mexico and you get
caught walking down the public road -- you get deported. You get
caught in somebody else's living room -- you get deported. If you
commit any crime short of murder -- you will just get deported.
And if you commit a murder, all you need do is run back across
the border into Mexico. Mexico will not extradite you.
KAS: It's a license to rape, rob, and even kill.
FOOTE: We are facing, eventually, the same sort of crime wave
that was happening in Rhodesia in the 1970s and is happening in
South Africa right now. These criminals pour across the border
and rape, kill, pillage, and burn with impunity. The border
County Attorneys have granted blanket immunity from prosecution
based solely on nationality and immigration status. You can
commit any crime in the world short of murder and get away with
it in Cochise County and in most of the other border counties.
KAS: Why do they do that?
FOOTE: That is a very good question for investigative journalists
to begin asking these border County Attorneys.
KAS: Is it that the media would crucify them if they did
something about it?
FOOTE: All they have to do is enforce the law. All they'd have to
do is say 'zero tolerance,' no special consideration. It's not a
question of them not having the tools available. It's a question
of them having the will to apply them. If an American citizen
commits these same crimes he will absolutely be prosecuted. But
if a Mexican national who's in this country illegally commits
these crimes, he'll be allowed to walk. Why is that? That's a
question I want to have answered.
KAS: I do too. We know the national media are hushing most of
this up, but are there any members of the local media on your
FOOTE: Absolutely. There was a reporter from the Douglas Daily
Dispatch by the name of Xavier Zaragoza. He was invited out here
weeks ago, at our invitation. He was here the day that our
landowner host was arrested. In fact, he followed Casey into town
when he left here. Casey got arrested at the local gas station.
When he followed our host into town and saw this federal SWAT
team swoop down on our landowner host, he got out of his car to
take pictures, and the federal agents pointed submachine guns at
him and told him to put the camera down. They were accompanied by
local police officers from the Douglas Police Department, who
told these agents that he was a member of the local media. He's a
validated, certified member of the press -- and they pointed
machine guns at him because they didn't want pictures taken of
their crime. These are agents of the federal government who are
committing crimes against our citizens in order to protect the
criminals who are victimizing our landowners.
KAS: Did Mr. Zaragoza publicize this in his newspaper?
FOOTE: He has been terrorized. And his newspaper is not allowing
him to speak out about this.
KAS: So you've got one guy in the local media on your side but
he's not allowed to speak. Anybody else?
FOOTE: We've had a lot of very good journalists and
correspondents with us in the past. Probably one of the bravest
ones was Rob Krott, who actually came out in the field with us
during Operation Hawk in Santa Cruz County in October of 2002. He
published a wonderful two-part article which appeared in two
issues of Soldier of Fortune magazine -- very good coverage.
We've had very fair coverage from the NBC affiliate in Tucson,
KDOA Channel 4. They came out and did the video of us turning the
dope over to the local authorities last year in October. And they
came right out and said, 'look, these are volunteers, they're
here on their own dime and their own time -- why is it we're
being called amateurs by the sheriff in Santa Cruz County when he
couldn't do what we did?'
KAS: Good question. Well, I'm glad you've gotten some fair
FOOTE: Very little.
KAS: It sounds pretty sparse, though.
FOOTE: We look at it this way: Every time we get some negative
coverage, it spreads the word about what is going on down here,
who we are, what we're doing, and how we're going about doing it.
KAS: Are you growing?
FOOTE: Absolutely. We've had the most tremendous amount of growth
in the last year -- more in the last year than we had in the two
years before it.
KAS: Even so, though, aren't your efforts dwarfed by the scale of
this problem? I mean, the border between the United States and
Mexico is 2,000 miles long.
FOOTE: Well, we're looking at this as one step at a time. It is
better to do something that is not enough than to do nothing.
Because not enough is still more than nothing.
KAS: How many volunteers do you think it would take to secure the
entire border? If you had, say, a patrol of twenty men every mile
-- that's 40,000 men.
FOOTE: Absolutely; if they had the right equipment and
communications and support.
KAS: Well, look at it this way: If we've got 150 billion dollars
to spend to make sure that the borders are secure in some Middle
FOOTE: Why can't we spend half that or a quarter of that to
secure our own border?
KAS: Right. If a 40,000-man force were required, with that kind
of a budget we could spend 3.75 million dollars per man on that
FOOTE: Right. What we need to have to secure the border is a
military force. That is the only thing that is going to properly
secure it. Yet our own attorney general has come out and said
publicly that there are 'historical and cultural reasons' why we
cannot put our own military on our own border. But apparently
those 'historical and cultural reasons' do not affect the Mexican
military -- because we have solid, clear videotape of armed,
uniformed Mexican Army patrols up and down the border here in
Cochise County every single day. The difference is that these
Mexican Army patrols, which operate in broad daylight carrying
German-made machine guns in American-made Humvees, are not there
to protect the lives and property of American citizens. They are
there to secure the borders for the business interests of the
KAS: It seems to me that if we have the money to protect the
borders of countries in the Middle East, we can protect our own
borders -- whether it be with the Border Patrol, a militarized
border, or subsidized volunteer forces of some kind.
FOOTE: You either militarize the border or accept the fact that
we have an open invitation to terrorists to cross here.
KAS: What kind of help does Ranch Rescue need?
FOOTE: We need men with law enforcement and military backgrounds
-- particularly light infantry, because that's the way we
operate. We need folks who are willing to come here on their own
time and their own dime, with their own gear and equipment, and
help us secure this property and the property of our neighbors --
which we are gaining the trust and cooperation of every day. We
are now in a position in which we will very soon be working with
a group of landowners who collectively own over 1800 acres in one
of the most heavily-travelled drug smuggling corridors in the
county. We have a group of volunteers on their property right
now, tonight, as we speak. While we're talking, I'm monitoring
the radio and I'm listening for traffic from them to let me know
what is going on on that property. We need more men just like
that. We also need men and women who can operate a radio, operate
a video camera, drive a vehicle to shuttle our volunteers back
and forth, cook the food, talk to the media, write articles. We
need all sorts of support and construction volunteers. We're
trying to construct physical facilities on this property to house
additional volunteers and to store equipment. Donations continue
to pour in -- we always like money, but we also like things like
food, night vision devices, video cameras, anything that you can
think of that would help our overall effort. We had a very
generous gift given to us just a month ago by a man who was
cleaning out his storage unit in Texas. He donated an entire
ammunition reloading setup to us, the likes of which I'd never
seen before. There must have been $10,000 worth of reloading
equipment in that gift. It was very generous. We've had folks
offer to donate us horses, or donate their time as horse patrol.
That's very effective out here. We had Mad Mike Williams from
Soldier of Fortune magazine out here. Mike Williams is 78 years
old, and can't ride a horse and can't hump a rucksack out in
field, but he brought decades of experience as a warrior. Mike
fought in the Congo in the 60s. He fought in Rhodesia in the 70s.
He formed -- and led as tactical commander -- a unit called
Grey's Scouts. His experience in running horse-mounted infantry
units has been invaluable to us, laying the groundwork for
establishing our own horse-mounted patrols out here.
KAS: Jack, you sound very passionate about this. Is this the main
focus of your life now?
FOOTE: It's begun to be -- much to my wife's chagrin. Since I now
devote so much time to this, she calls Ranch Rescue my mistress.
But I think that everyone needs to understand that this is a
fight that we are in -- that this is not just a silent war that
we are in; this has become a shooting war down here on the
border. Shots are fired on this border at least once a week -- if
not every night.
KAS: And that's within your limited area right there, correct?
FOOTE: All up and down this border, if someone comes up and says
'this happened last night,' I have stopped being surprised at it.
KAS: How can interested parties reach you, Jack?
FOOTE: Go to our Web site at http://www.ranchrescue.com/ or send
me an email at email@example.com. There are links to the
articles that have been written about us and that have been
written about the incidents here on the border. There's even a
story there about how a guy successfully smuggled an elephant --
I'm not making this up. You look far enough down on that list of
media stories -- this guy actually smuggled an elephant across
the border, through the customs checkpoints.
KAS: If you can smuggle 8,000 people a day, I guess you can
smuggle an elephant.
FOOTE: I just couldn't resist putting that up there; it just had
KAS: Can people write to you via postal mail?
FOOTE: Yes. The address is on our Web site, but just in case you
want to hand it our here, it's Post Office Box 2684, Douglas AZ
85608. Or you can phone us right here at Camp Thunderbird. The
number here is 520-364-3966. If you get the voice mail, it's
because we're on the phone.
KAS: Is there anything else you'd like to add before we close the
FOOTE: The thing that everyone needs to understand about Ranch
Rescue is that we are not the first choice of these landowners.
They would rather be able to pick up the phone and call someone
from the government that they pay their hard-earned money for in
taxes to come out and protect their properties -- to secure their
homes and families -- to enforce the laws. They call Ranch Rescue
as a last resort because no one else is coming out and providing
a credible deterrent. We stand shoulder to shoulder with these
landowners who have invited us. And shoulder to shoulder we
collectively point to our government and say to all of them:
Either you keep these criminals off of this property, or by God,
gentlemen, we will.
KAS: Thank you, Mr. Jack Foote. Thank you for your patriotic and
humanitarian efforts and thank you again for being a guest on
American Dissident Voices.
FOOTE: Thank you for the opportunity to speak to your listening
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Ranch Rescue provides protection to landowners along our border.
The National Alliance provides protection to our genetic
heritage, without which there would be nothing else worth
We give special thanks today to National Vanguard contributing
editor Ben Parker for arranging this interview.
Let me take a moment this Yuletide season to thank all of you who
have made the National Alliance and National Vanguard a success
in 2003. Thanks to all of you who have faithfully stood by us
when the controlled media and the rumor-mongers started their lie
machines. Thanks to all of you who have contributed money,
purchased books and CDs, and subscribed to our magazines. Thanks
especially to every single one of our authors and editors who
have made our publications what they are today. Thanks to all of
you great-hearted men and women who care about the future of our
uniquely beautiful and creative race. Together we will reach even
higher in 2004, as we make the first steps on a bold journey
which we believe will reach the stars. Good Yule to each and
every one of you!
Until next week, this is Kevin Alfred Strom reminding you of the
words of Richard Berkeley Cotten: "Freedom is not free; free men
are not equal, and equal men are not free."