War On the Border, Part 1
An Interview with Jack Foote
American Dissident Voices broadcast
December 20, 2003
Kevin Alfred Strom
Welcome to American Dissident Voices. I'm Kevin Alfred Strom.
Today on American Dissident Voices we welcome Mr. Jack Foote,
founder of Ranch Rescue, an organization on the front lines of
the illegal invasion of the United States' southern border.
KAS: Welcome, Jack!
FOOTE: Thank you, sir. I appreciate the opportunity to speak to
your listening audience.
KAS: What is Ranch Rescue?
FOOTE: Well, first of all, Ranch Rescue is not a single
organization; it is a network of multiple, independent state
chapters. We work together collaboratively and cooperatively and
at the invitation of private landowners to help them deal with
crime that no one else will help them with. I am only one of the
founders; I'm not the founder. There were eight of us originally.
I'm not technically the leader; I'm only the national spokesman,
because there's no way that any one of us could lead all the
separate state chapters. We've also got one chapter outside of
the United States. That last chapter is in South Africa.
KAS: Can you explain why there's a chapter in South Africa?
FOOTE: Because the farmers and ranchers out there are dealing
with the same -- if not worse -- crime wave that we're seeing in
our southern border counties.
KAS: I see. Well, we have covered that problem on our radio
program before. Very good.
FOOTE: Our Colorado chapter, actually, is the one that is most
active and set up the South Africa chapter. They're very involved
also in the South African refugee situation.
KAS: Very good. I did notice there's even a separate website for
Ranch Rescue Colorado. How long has Ranch Rescue been around?
FOOTE: We've been around since the fourteenth of June, 2000. Our
first field mission was conducted in October 2000 on Roger
Barnett's property right here in Cochise County. What we try to
do is help the landowners directly. It's not specifically an
immigration issue, it's not even specifically a border issue.
We'll go and help landowners in any part of the nation and, in
fact, we have a mission going on right now in Colorado called
Operation Foxbat. We're sending our volunteers to help the owner
of a private wildlife preserve deal with the crime that's been
committed on her land by trespassers and poachers during hunting
season. They come onto her private land, terrorize her, and maim
and kill her animals. So our volunteers are helping in that
regard as well. We're also conducting what we call Operation
Thunderbird here in Cochise County, Arizona, directly up against
the border. In this case, our landowner host has been shot at
from Mexico. He's had the Mexican Army appear on his property
four times since June that we know of. We've had one group of
drug-smuggler paramilitary troops dressed in black fatigues and
carrying machine guns come onto the property once since June. The
day before yesterday I led a patrol. We found a stash of crystal
methamphetamine on the property This is a very well-used conduit
for the smuggling of people and the smuggling of drugs and the
smuggling of weapons. So, given the fact that no one has provided
a credible deterrent -- no one from our government anyway has
provided a credible deterrent to these crimes -- our landowner
host has asked for our help as individual citizens and volunteers
KAS: It does seem to me that this is the sort of thing that the
United States government and the local authorities should be
protecting these American citizens from.
FOOTE: You're absolutely correct. They should be, but they're
KAS: What was the inspiration for starting Ranch Rescue some
three years ago?
FOOTE: The inspiration first came from the story that we heard of
rancher Bob Maupin in eastern San Diego, California. He was in
eastern San Diego County on his ranch when he was kidnapped at
gunpoint by eight armed, uniformed Mexican soldiers who crossed
the international border, came onto his private land, and were in
the process of dragging him back to Mexico when he was rescued by
the Border Patrol. Fortunately his daughter had enough presence
of mind to get on the phone and call the Border Patrol, who sent
a team and intercepted and arrested these eight armed, uniformed
Mexican soldiers who were on American soil. Now, despite the fact
that we have photographs on our website of these eight armed,
uniformed Mexican soldiers who were being held on Mr. Maupin's
property by the border patrol -- and we have photographs of their
weapons -- the State Department and the Border Patrol now claim
that this event never happened, that the Mexican Army would never
do such a thing.
KAS: Well, who do they claim it was? Clearly the Border Patrol
was on the scene.
FOOTE: Yes, sir. But they all deny that it ever happened, despite
the fact that we have the photographs on our website. And by the
way, your listeners who want to go and look at these photographs
can find them on our website at www.ranchrescue.com. Now this
same incident happened again on November 24, 2003 just before
Thanksgiving. A family of five -- a mother, a father, and three
minor children -- were dragged from their home -- from their
privately-owned property on the Rio Grande in Texas -- into
Mexico by armed, uniformed Mexican soldiers. This was reported on
WorldNet Daily and was reported on NewsMax. The facts are not in
dispute, despite the obfuscations that our own government tries
to throw up. This actually happened, and they can also read this
story on our website.
KAS: Is the Mexican government admitting that these things have
FOOTE: They have refused to comment on it, and until we get
coverage from the major news media of this cross-border terrorist
raid by the Mexican army we're never going to have any sorts of
answers provided by anyone.
KAS: Do you have a clue as to what the reasons for these attacks
by these uniformed soldiers are?
FOOTE: We do know that the second-largest industry in Mexico is
drugs, and the illegal smuggling of drugs and people combined is
the largest industry in Mexico. It exceeds the industry of
tourism; it exceeds the revenues generated by oil production; it
is what Mexico does more of than anything else is smuggle drugs
and people illegally into the United States. Now keep in mind
that the old days where you saw ones and twos and small groups of
criminals coming across the southern border into the United
States are gone. Now 99% of the illegal alien traffic is
controlled and benefit is derived from [it] by the same criminal
cartels that do the drug-smuggling. So the money paid to smuggle
people into the United States goes into the same pockets as the
money from the drug smugglers. Violence escalates daily.
KAS: Are big U.S. corporations involved in this? I know some of
them are after the cheap labor that these immigrants bring.
FOOTE: I think they indirectly benefit from it and would
certainly support it, if there's any way they could get away with
it. But the fact remains that this is an illegal smuggling
industry that directly benefits Mexico most of all, and that's
why it's being deliberately ignored and the facts swept under the
rug by our own government. I mean, this is very, very comparable
to the situation that we saw in Florida in the 1980s with rampant
drug-smuggling. It was completely out of control, and the drug-
smuggling rings were knocking each other off to avoid having any
competition. In fact, two weeks ago, there was a running gun
battle between two rival groups of people smugglers. They were
firing shots at each other with SKS assault rifles from moving
vehicles on the Interstate -- Interstate 10 -- between Tucson and
Phoenix. Four were killed, six were wounded, but I never saw
anything about it on national news.
KAS: So, you say the stories of these invasions, these gun
battles are really downplayed by the major national media?
FOOTE: Well, did you hear anything about it?
KAS: No, I did not.
FOOTE: Yeah, this happened two weeks ago right here on Interstate
10 between Tucson and Phoenix. It resulted in a so-called
crackdown called Operation Icestrom by the Bureau of Immigration
and Custom Enforcement, or ICE, as they call themselves now, and
they sent fifty additional federal agents into the Phoenix area
to supposedly crackdown on these people-smugglers. But the net
effect down here on the border has been absolutely zero. We're
still seeing hordes -- mobs -- of criminal aliens pour across
this privately-owned property, and the best thing we can expect
from our own government is that they will do everything possible
to aid the pro-criminal alien groups -- what we call the Open
Border Mafia -- groups like those headed up by Armando Navarro
and Isabel Garcia and Robin Hoover. These -- -I can't use those
words on radio -- these...individuals of the Open Border Mafia
work collectively to frustrate the efforts of those of us that
are trying to protect ourselves and protect our friends and
KAS: What kind of people are in your group and what exactly do
they do? You were inspired by these attacks, but what was your
first step and where have you gone from there?
FOOTE: Who are we? Well, we're all sorts of people, all different
walks of life. If you look at our website, you can read our
mission statement, which is property rights first, foremost, and
always. We work together to protect and defend the property
rights of all of our nation's citizens, regardless of race,
color, creed, or religion. We also accept volunteers on that same
basis. Where we went the first time was to Roger Barnett's
property. Roger has a 22,000-acre ranch just east of Douglas. I'm
just west of Douglas where I am right now, and on a good day
Roger will only see 150 to 300 people coming across his property,
violating his property rights. Only 150 to 300 on a good day. On
a bad day he sees four to five hundred -- every single day.
That's one ranch. Arizona is the number-one criminal crossing
point in the nation. There are more apprehensions by the Border
Patrol in the area just around Douglas and in Cochise County than
in any other county on the border. In fiscal year 2000 the Border
Patrol's own figures show that they apprehended over 289,000
criminal aliens just in the area around Douglas. That's not even
the entire county, that's just in the tiny little area right
around this town. If you talk to the locals and if you listen to
their experiences they'll tell you that for every one that the
Border Patrol catches at least ten more get through successfully.
So, if 289,000 got caught in fiscal year 2000 -- yeah, okay,
fiscal year 2000 had an extra day -- but that's still 790 per
day. If one is getting caught for every ten that get through,
that's 7900 criminal aliens running around loose in the middle of
the night on somebody else's private property without permission,
committing God knows what kind of crimes along the way, every
FOOTE: Now, since 9-11 they've fudged the figures and claim that
they've reduced it from 700 a day to 70 a day, but they're lying.
They don't count the ones that they catch that elect to go for
what's called "voluntary return." What they also won't tell you
is how many they catch that are not Mexican. If you're caught and
you're from a nation other than Mexico, well, you don't get
returned to Mexico. What happens is that the Border Patrol will
ask you where you want to go and if you're not on any terrorist
watch list or any wants or warrants are out for you -- not that
they actually check these people that well -- they will give this
criminal alien a bus ticket to wherever they want to go inside
the United States and they'll also give them a notice to appear
in court at some later date, probably a year and a half in the
KAS: An illegal alien from El Salvador can get a bus ticket to
Chicago or Richmond?
FOOTE: Paid for by the American taxpayer.
FOOTE: That is how they're handling the enormous flow of criminal
traffic into this county. Now back in October of 2002 we
successfully conducted Operation Hawk on private property in the
neighboring country of Santa Cruz. We confiscated and turned over
to the authorities 279 pounds of high- grade marijuana that we
captured while we were operating on this private property. The
following month -- November 2002 -- all of the Border Patrol
highway checkpoints leading out of Cochise County were closed
down. [If] you leave any other border county, any other border
city, and head north on the highway you will encounter a Border
Patrol checkpoint. Not in Cochise County. Not in the number one
illegal crossing point in the nation.
KAS: Why'd they do that?
FOOTE: Well, they will tell you one thing -- the official
so-called story -- but we know that the real reason is because we
were so successful in calling attention to these crossings on
private property. Their thinking was, "If we just open up the
highways, then all these criminals can just come north without
coming across private property."
KAS: So they're trying to actually harm your efforts.
FOOTE: Well, they're trying to make their own numbers look better
than they actually are. You have to understand the way the
thinking at the Border Patrol works. If they make more
apprehensions this year than last year they say "Look! We're
doing a better job! We're catching more criminals! We declare
victory!" If they catch fewer -- whether they actually catch
fewer or they just say that they catch fewer -- then they say
"Look! We're deterring them from crossing! We declare victory!"
No matter what happens, no matter what the numbers are, the
Border Patrol declares victory.
KAS: Sounds like the bureaucratic mind at work.
FOOTE: Well, you have to understand that the people in management
of Border Patrol are motivated by their desire to retain their
bonuses, their promotions, their vacations, and their retirement.
They are not motivated by protecting the lives and property of
these county citizens. Most of the Border Patrol management are
not from here. They don't live here. They don't have a history or
a family in the border counties. They come from someplace else.
They don't care what happens to our families down here. They only
care what happens to their own measly futures. And if they can
get away with it, they will fudge the numbers.
KAS: Well, don't their bosses -- don't the people who are in
charge -- give them an incentive to do their jobs right, to do
them properly to protect the citizens?
FOOTE: Well, judging by the results that we have seen on this
particular property, no. Keep in mind that the largest Border
Patrol field station in the nation is here in Douglas, Arizona. I
am looking at out my window right now. It is less than a quarter
of a mile from this house. The lights from that station shine in
my bedroom at night. That doesn't stop them from coming across
this property. We're right next door to them. We have property
that goes right up to their back fence.
KAS: That's very bold. Now I understand that Ranch Rescue
volunteers only go on private property where they've been invited
by the owner, so does that mean you actually have a ranch or a
landowner who is a host of your people?
FOOTE: Multiple landowners have invited us onto their property
here in Cochise County. Right now, as we're speaking, we have a
team of volunteers on one of our neighbors' property in pursuit
of drug smugglers. The place where I'm standing is our landowner
host's property. He hosts our barracks facility bunkhouse; he
allows us to feed our volunteers here and we field them out
across the county from here. He's not here with us tonight
unfortunately because he was arrested on November 25th by a
federal SWAT team.
KAS: What is the story behind that?
FOOTE: Well, they claim that there were federal charges against
him, but all of those federal charges have since been discharged;
he is not being held by the feds anymore for any federal crimes.
He's being held in Pima County jail up in Tucson and no one will
tell us why he's being held there.
KAS: Held without charge? Isn't that illegal?
FOOTE: Last time I checked, yes, sir. But we don't have the funds
to hire him a decent attorney, so we're having to accept the
services of the public defender. Now why he's being held, nobody
knows. But he's been arrested and he's being held because he was
the landowner who hosted our group of volunteers. There is no
other reason. These idiots, these miscreants, these
six-hundred-dollar business suits underneath game-show hosts'
hairdos are protecting the criminals against us citizens. This is
the inmates running the asylum right here in Cochise County.
KAS: I was going to ask you, Jack, what the federal government's
attitude towards your efforts were, but obviously they're
extremely hostile. Are there any politicians -- local, state, or
federal -- doing anything to stop illegal immigration or doing
anything at least slightly supportive of your efforts?
FOOTE: There are no politicians who support our efforts to
protect private property rights; none that we're aware of. We're
not an immigration reform group. We are, purely speaking, a
private-property rights group. I do understand that Congressman
Tom Tancredo from Colorado is very much involved in the
immigration reform effort, but those efforts will take years to
bear fruit. If he changed the entire policy and approach to
immigration law enforcement today there would be no effect on
this private property this evening. We need help now. And we need
direct aid from men who know how to march and men who know how to
take orders in the field and that's exactly the kind of
volunteers that are coming down here. Not that everybody who
comes here is a superman or a superwoman. We have folks come here
to volunteer that do nothing more than drive vehicles around,
operate radios, cook the food for our volunteers. These folks are
very valuable. These support volunteers are crucial to our
effort. We also have folks here that volunteer to do nothing more
than construction. We're trying to expand the bunkhouse
capabilities so that we can hold more volunteers at the same
time. But we still need security volunteers to make all of those
KAS: So these are people with regular jobs or retired folks?
FOOTE: Everybody who comes down here comes down here and
volunteers on their own time and on their own dime. Now we've
been very blessed in that we've had donations of food from a
church in California. In fact, they've got more food waiting for
us if we can somehow get out there and transport it back here.
But we feed these volunteers two hot meals a day and we provide
them with a warm bunk to sleep in for as long as they can devote
the time. Some of these guys -- God bless them -- have come out
here and said "I'll spend two months and I'll help you," or "I'll
spend a month and I'll help you," but if someone comes out here
and spends a day and helps out, that helps us keep this property
secure and protected for our landowner host when he returns.
He'll come home eventually. I want him to come home to a house
that's still standing, not one that these criminal drug-smugglers
and people-smugglers have burned to the ground because we had to
leave it abandoned, because that's what'll happen.
KAS: Definitely. Is there any organized resistance to what you're
doing on the border?
FOOTE: There are what we call the Open Border Mafia, the
pro-criminal alien groups that call us all sorts of names. But
while they can make wild accusations, they apparently cannot make
any valid arguments because none of them have had the courage to
accept my challenge -- which has been standing out there for
three years -- to publicly debate anyone, anywhere, anytime about
what we do within Ranch Rescue, who we are, and what we stand
for. The chief critic all these years has been Isabel Garcia --
who, by the way, works in Pima County as a public defender, yet
there is no record of her ever having appeared in court. She's an
attorney; she's a college-educated communist. She will not debate
me. She appeared at the front gate of this property while the
Univision television crew was already here. The Univision crew --
and Univision, by the way, is a Spanish- language TV station --
was here at our invitation. And I let them go up to the front
gate and I said to them "Tell Garcia that I will debate her at
the front gate on camera now." When they told her this, she said
no and left. She ran away. None of them have the courage to meet
me in a debate. I am not that good of a debater. I was a C
student in college; I barely graduated. I was a terrible debate
team member when I was in high school. I lost every debate that I
had except one, and that was because my opponent failed to show
up. Isabel Garcia is a trained attorney, supposedly trained in
debate, supposedly successful at it. Yet she ran away from a
public debate with me, not because I'm a better debater, but
because I have right on my side and she knows it.
KAS: We'll continue our interview with Mr. Jack Foote of Ranch
Rescue next week. We appreciate the fact that Ranch Rescue is not
taking a position on racial matters, but is instead concentrating
on its mission of doing what the government has failed to do in
protecting American families from the Mexican invasion. And make
no mistake about it -- it is an invasion. It's the Mission of the
National Alliance to make the facts of this invasion and the
racial and cultural change it represents known to White Americans
and to translate that knowledge into political and social change.
Enforcing the law is not enough -- though we must demand that it
be enforced -- and I wish that Ranch Rescue was ten thousand
times larger than it is now or that Mr. Foote ran the Border
Patrol so it was done properly. But enforcing the law is not
enough because even if the immigration invasion -- legal and
illegal -- were totally stopped immediately the Mexicans would
soon take over much of the United States anyway due to their high
birth rate. The only solution that will work is White living
space. Until we have our White living space I'm glad that we have
men like Jack Foote, who are working within the system -- though
that system fights them at every turn -- to stop these criminals
and [to] highlight the treason which allows them free reign. On
our next program we'll find out what Ranch Rescue does when
confronted by alien invaders who refuse to leave; how and why the
Border Patrol covers up its refusal to stop the invasion; and how
the Mexican invasion is now turning into a real shooting war.
Until next week this is Kevin Alfred Strom reminding you of the
words of Richard Berkeley Cotten: Freedom is not free, free men
are not equal, and equal men are not free.