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Debunking 9-11, Pages 72-73


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Insider Reveals Disgruntled U.S. Military on Verge of Revolt; Pilots, Pentagon Man Have Different View on What Happened

By John Kaminski

. In May 2003, a journalist in Portugal reported on a sensational, marathon meeting of a group of U.S. pilots that I issued a report concluding that the story told by the U.S. government about what happened on Sept. 11, 2001 is improbable and unlikely.
. . .Except for several notices on the Internet, that story was basically never reported in the United States, and largely debunked when the reporter flubbed the name of the organizer, creating disbelief in the minds of many readers.
. . .The record was corrected in stunning fashion Feb. 25 on Alex Jones's "Prison Planet" radio program when former Pentagon arms salesman Donn de Grand-Pre, author of three books that allege 9-11 was an inside job, set the record straight, because he was the man who organized that conference. That 72-hour nonstop symposium by a group of military and civilian pilots concluded the flight crews of the four passenger airliners involved in the 9-11 tragedy had no control over their aircraft.
. . .De Grand Pre, a retired Army colonel, is the author of A Window on America, Confessions of an Arms Peddler and the series "Barbarians Inside the Gates." His thesis in the third opus "is that the wars we have engaged in for whatever reasons since the end of World War II have not only been unconstitutionally waged, but have caused a net loss in political power. Each war was waged to divert our attention away from the true enemy within, and toward a contrived enemy outside our borders."
. . .De Grand Pre explained that his third opus actually is a trilogy: "I've got three books out under the title 'Barbarians Inside the Gates: Book 1 was The Serpent's Sting, Book 2 is The Viper's Venom. Book 3, which just came out, is The Rattler's Revenge.
. . ."And 1'd like to quote from Book 2, which came out October of 2002. There is a very important paragraph there. It says,
. . ."The trigger for the 9-11 activity was the imminent and unstoppable worldwide financial collapse, which can only be prevented temporarily by a major war, perhaps to become known as World War III. To bring it off one more time, martial law will probably be imposed in the United States."
. . .De Grand Pre was the top U.S. arms dealer to the Middle East under the Ford and Carter administrations. What he saw caused him to leave government service and begin investigating the forces he saw warping our nation's future.
. . .In the interview with Jones, de Grand Pre made several stunning assertions, among them:
. . .• There were no hijackers on the 9-11 killer jets. And he said the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (Richard Myers) agrees with him.
. . .In response to a caller to Alex Jones's radio show, de Grand Pre noted: "[T]he cochairman of the Joint Chiefs himself has agreed there were no hijackers. There were no cell phone calls. Everybody aboard [those] aircraft, [including] pilots and crew, [was] unconscious within 8 to 18 minutes after takeoff. And you can take it from there. I've got it covered in books 2 and 3, what actually happened.
. . ."These planes were being piloted by remote control, probably an AWACS aircraft taking over that airplane or airplanes or drones. And flying them at 5 and 8 G-force that no pilot could withstand. If you read books 2 and 3, you will discover how and why this came about."
. . .• The 9-11 planes are now at the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean. "And I'm telling you that we are knowledgeably speculating," said de Grand Pre in response to another caller. "Those aircraft went over the Atlantic, and that was 'all she wrote'."
. . .• Talk of a military coup
to reverse what he calls the administrative coup d'etat that happened on 9-11 is rife within the corridors of the Pentagon.
. . .In his various interviews and publications, de Grand-Pre has called 9-11 "an administrative coup d'etat" by the neoconservatives. He suggests the only way the neocons can be stopped is by a military coup d'etat and estimates 70 percent of key military personnel are in favor of such a step. But the possibility is complicated, he says, by the large number of key military players who have gone over to the Council on Foreign Relations team. Some of these players, including three- and four-star generals, however, may side with the military while pretending to be on the side of the neocons.
. . .De Grand Pre insists he is in personal contact with members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
. . .The truly patriotic members of the military have had to sit there and take all these wild schemes by corporate-controlled politicians. De Grand Pres prediction? "1 think those days are coming to an end. The military ain't going to take it any longer."
. . .In the interview with Jones, de Grand-Pre also asserted:
. . .• It is common knowledge at the Pentagon that Israel fired nuclear weapons at Iraq during the first gulf war.
. . .• A commercial aircraft did not hit the Pentagon. Most likely it was a cruise missile or a Global Hawk.
. . .• Flight 93, the jetliner that supposedly crashed in Pennsylvania after courageous passengers struggled with armed hijackers, was shot down by the North Dakota Air Guard. "I know the pilot who fired those two missiles to take down [Flight] 93," de Grand Pre insisted, adding that the order to shoot down the plane came from the adjutant general of North Dakota.
. . .• Most likely it was U.S. forces that tried to kill Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz when he visited Iraq recently.
. . .• Military tribunals will try current U.S. public officials if the military takes over, de Grand Pre predicts. "And Cheney is toast." De Grand Pre named Cheney as the one man who knows the most about 9-11.
. . .In earlier interviews, de Grand-Pre has recounted that the cochairman of the Joint Chiefs of staff, Gen. Richard Myers, had 500 copies of the 24-page report made and sent out, including to the White House.
. . .Assessing Myers's reaction, de Grand Pre said, "I'm quite sure that he believed in it. I think that he still believes in it. You can understand the difficulties. The civilian administration, of course, won't recognize it as such.
. . ."There's a definite cleavage between the military of the Pentagon and the civilian hierarchy
and never the twain shall meet. "
. . .Jones triggered a response from de Grand Pre when he mentioned a 2002 article in The Washington Times that said morale at the Pentagon had never been lower.
. . .De Grand Pre responded: "I can verify that from Col. Dick Schultz, who is a friend of mine in the Joint Chiefs. Morale was not only low, but he said some of the troops are ready to mutiny. If it wasn't for the fact that the government, the civilian hierarchy, has control over retirements, there would probably be blood in the streets by now."

. . .When other news outlets began checking on this story angle, Jones noted that Pentagon officials were apoplectic. "[T]hey panicked and flew the officers on jets to luxury vacations and had these focus groups. They even talked about a possible mutiny. People were just totally distraught. What would make them become distraught overnight in the Pentagon?"
. . .De Grand Pre's answer was chilling, and revealed the possibility of a military coup d'etat has been simmering in the corridors of the Pentagon for some time.
. . ."It wasn't an overnight thing. You see, as I outline in book 1, and I carry that on in book 2, as well as book 3, we were on the verge of a military coup d'etat. And this was long in the planning and after the 78 days of bombing Kosovo, it became critical. And we were close to a coup at that time. In my survey of the reports and the pilots who worked with that, a coup was a possibility.
. . ."In fact, a coup d'etat was pulled on the morning of Sept. 11. Only it was an administrative or what we call a 'cold' coup d'etat."
. . .Jones's translation of that was "a counterrevolutionary junta."
. . .De Grand Pre concurred, and added: "And as we delved into that, we found that the culprits, including [Defense Secretary Donald] Rumsfeld, were part of a neocon group that had been planning this thing for literally years prior to Sept. 11."
. . .In a previous interview that appeared on Michael Rivero's "What Really Happened" website, de Grand Pre had already outlined his conclusions about 9-11. [Editor's Note: link to Grand Pre article archived with America First books here, or What Really here].
. . ."The 9-11 activity and horrific destruction of U .S. property and lives was meant to trigger a psychological and patriotic reaction on the part of the U.S. citizens, which to pave the way for 'combined UN activity' (using the fig leaf of NATO) for striking key targets in both the Middle East/South Asia and the Balkans. The goal continues to be ultimate destruction of all national sovereignty and establishment of a global government, the new world order which daddy Bush spoke of.
. . ."The trigger for the 9-11 activity was the imminent and unstoppable worldwide financial collapse, which can only be prevented (temporarily) by a major war, perhaps to become known as World War III. To bring it off (one more time), martial law will probably be imposed in the United States." De Grand Pre had also sounded the same themes on Jackie Patru's "Radio Sweet Liberty" web cast.
. . ."The so-called terrorist attack was in fact a superbly executed military operation against the United States, requiring the utmost professional military skill in command, communications and control. It was flawless in timing, in the choice of selected aircraft to be used as guided missiles, and in the coordinated delivery of those missiles to their pre-selected targets."
. . .As a tactical military exercise against two significant targets (the world financial center and the citadel of world strategic military planning), the attack, from the point of view of a psychological impact on the American public, equaled the Japanese "surprise" attack on Pearl Harbor on Dec. 7, 1941.
. . .But the overriding question of that original group of pilots was: If we are at war, who is the enemy?
. . .The group determined that the enemy is within the gates, that he has infiltrated into the highest policymaking positions at the federal level, and has absolute control, not only of the purse strings, but of the troop buildup and deployment of our military forces, including active, reserve and National Guard units.
. .Read the complete interview of Donn de Grand Pre at [Editor's Note: This site is no longer active; see America First Books archive or the Prison Planet archive], which [s]ounded many of the themes de Grand Pre discussed. (See
. . .De Grand Pre's books are not yet available on the web, but more information can be obtained from De Grand Pre Publishing Ltd. at 540-547-2996. [Editor's Note: please see Viper's Venom, available as an America First Books ebook]

John Kaminski, an independent journalist, is the author of America's Autopsy Report, a collection of his Internet essays published by Dandelion Books and featured on hundreds of websites around the world. For more information on how to get this book, go to Or, to read some of his more recent essays for free, go to:

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